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[brisvr4]

Feel free to update this list guys!


49178-01400 = vr4 turbo a.ka. 14B Comp wheel: Inducer 43.06mm Exducer 58.04mm

49178-01410 = vr4 turbo ASPEC Comp wheel: Inducer 43.06mm Exducer 58.04mm

49178-01420 = vr4 RS turbo (Small 16G) Comp wheel: Inducer 46.48mm Exducer 60.07mm

49178-01450 = EVO-1 turbo (Small 16G) Comp wheel: Inducer 46.48mm Exducer 60.07mm (IF you can ever find one off an Evo1 that is REALLY a small16g)

49178-01460 = EVO-2 turbo (Big 16G) Comp wheel: Inducer 48.06mm Exducer 68.07mm

49178-01470 = EVO-3 turbo (Big 16G bigger again) Comp wheel: Inducer 48.31mm Exducer 68.07mm

49178-01580 = EVO-7 turbo (Twin scroll, reverse mount) (who cares )

*EDIT* Another important link that should be on here and in everyones favourites: http://www.stealth31...-turboguide.htm

Edited by 3zercrowd, 07 January 2011 - 04:06 AM.
Updates

[BobWrinkle]

are evo 2 turbos "big 16gs"?
could u please add the nicknames for each of the turbos?

Cheers
Cade

[tharaka]

are evo 2 turbos "big 16gs"?
could u please add the nicknames for each of the turbos?

Cheers
Cade

i dont think so
i could be wrong however

[CLuTZ]

are evo 2 turbos "big 16gs"?

I've been led to believe they are by Steve Murch a.k.a M.S.E: Motorsport Engineering in N.Z, who has pulled apart over 100 of them and he says they're big 16g's.

[GSRSOL]

heres a rather comprehensive, and hard to interpret list (unless you speak spanish)

http://www.turbomast...hi&pagina=TDO5H

[kayarubin]

mine is a 49178-01450......

big 16G??

its off the jap spec VR4 RS

[tharaka]

mine is a 49178-01450......

big 16G??

its off the jap spec VR4 RS

evo 1 small 16g according to google

[brisvr4]

mine is a 49178-01450......

big 16G??

its off the jap spec VR4 RS

That part number is from an Evo 1.
Same turbo as I have
There seems to be a bit of confusion as to whether it is a small or big 16g though?

I pulled the comp cover from mine and measured the wheel and it is a big 16g.

It probably wouldn't hurt to measure your wheel to see which one you have there!

[Entaran]

The difference between small and big 16g is the vanes isn't it? Big/small/big/small = big 16g. Same size (all small) = small 16g. Or at least that's what they post over on galantvr4.org (US Site)

[kayarubin]

ive got my engine in bits and just had a bit of a play with the turbo...... doesnt look good

there is a little bit of shaft play and the wastegate was shifted over.... :shock:

it was letting exhaust gas past thru about a 2-3 mill gap around the flap!!

i hammered the gate back to normal but yeah......

what u guys think?

[brisvr4]

The difference between small and big 16g is the vanes isn't it? Big/small/big/small = big 16g. Same size (all small) = small 16g. Or at least that's what they post over on galantvr4.org (US Site)

Only the 14b has compressor blades that are all the same height Lorrie, the Small and Big 16g's have staggered blades.
Check out vfaq for more info, click on turbo then scroll down to "turbo comparison"

http://www.vfaq.com/index-main.html

[BobWrinkle]

Is the ASpec better, worse or the same as the 14Bs?

[brisvr4]

Is the ASpec better, worse or the same as the 14Bs?

Aspec IS a 14b

[Evo-00x]

Here's something to keep you busy for while. Ever wondered 'what the f*ck is a ETE52?' or 'Does a Frank 4 flow more than a 20G?"... well now you can decipher and compare the identifaction names that some performance shops give their turbos by the info below

Mitsubishi Turbo Specs
TDO4-9B-6CM2 265 CFM
TDO5H-14G-8CM2 465 CFM
TDO5-12A-8CM2 320 CFM
TDO4-13G-5CM2 360 CFM
TEO4-13C-6CM2 360 CFM
TDO4L-13G-6CM2 360 CFM
TDO4L-15C-8.5CM2 390 CFM
TDO5H-14B-6CM2 405 CFM
TDO5H-16G-7CM2 505 CFM
TDO5H-16G-10CM2 505 CFM
TDO5H-BIG16G-7CM 550 CFM
TDO6-17C-8CM2 550 CFM
TDO6H-20G-14CM2 650 CFM
TDO7S-25G-17CM2 850 CFM
TFO8L-30V-18CM2 1200 CFM

The above specs are measured at 15psi compressor air flow.

Max output from various Mitsu turbos
TD05-14B (stock 1st gen) 275-300hp @ 21 psi
TD05-16G (small) 345-365hp @ 22 psi
TD06-16G (large) 365-385hp @ 22 psi
TD06-20G 430-450hp @ 22 psi

A/R's
There are quite a few different tdo6's. Here are a few mitsi compressor housings and there corresponding a/r ratios
6 cm2 = 0.41 A/R
7 cm2 = 0.49 A/R
8 cm2 = 0.57 A/R
9 cm2 = 0.65 A/R
10 cm2 = 0.73 A/R
11 cm2 = 0.81 A/R
12 cm2 = 0.89 A/R

Mitsubishi (more):
16g = 34lb/min
Big 16g = 36lb/min
EVO III Big 16g = 36-40lb/min (DSMLink has logged several 40+) NEW!!!
20g = 44lb/min

Forced Performance:
Big28 = 37lb/min
FP2544 = 44lb/min (56trim/ dual BB)
Sleeper 16g = 44lb/min
Green = 49lb/min (50 trim)
FP49 = 49lb/min (50 trim, T31 turbine)
Red = 60lb/min (60-1 trim, dyno 520whp)
FP3052 = 52lb/min (dyno 504whp)
FP3065 = 65lb/min (dyno 585whp)
FP58 = 65lb/min (GT40 56 trim comp. wheel, .49A/R PTE, T350 turbine)

AGP:
T28 = 36lb/min (TB03 compressor)
RS43 = 43lb/min (46 trim T04E)
SS44 = 44lb/min (It is a 44lb/min but not a 48trim. It is not a GT30 at all)
RS49 = 49lb/min (50 trim T04E)
RS60 = 60lb/min (60-1 trim) (claimed 534whp)
RS65 = 65lb/min (56 trim GT40)

DSM Performance/Extreme Turbo:
ETA12 = 36lb/min (S-trim, ETA comp housing)
ETA32 = 48lb/min (50 trim, ETA comp housing)
ETE32 = 48lb/min (50 trim, T04E comp housing)
ETE42 = 50lb/min (60 trim, TO4E)
ETE52 = 55lb/min (60-1 trim, TO4E)
ETE53 = 55lb/min (60-1 trim, T04E) NEW!!!
ETE73 = 72lb/min (T66 comp wheel, T04E) NEW!!!

Buschur Racing:
BR-BIG28 = (claimed 350hp) NEW!!!
BR20G = (TD05/6 hybrid, first in 10s)
BR475 = (No info as of yet) NEW!!!
BR57 = (Garrett T3/T4)
BR500 = (claimed 504whp)
BR580 = (claimed 575whp)
BR675 = (No info as of yet) NEW!!!

Slowboy Racing:
SBR-M50 = 48lb/min (50 trim)
SBR-M60 = 60lb/min (60-1 trim)
SBR-GT10 = 44lb/min (48 trim, dual BB)
SBR-GT11 = (No info as of yet) NEW!!!
SBR-GT12 = 55lb/min (56 trim, dual BB)
SBR-GT13 = 60lb/min (60 trim, dual BB)
SBR-GT14 = 65lb/min (56 trim, dual BB)
SBR-GT35R = (No info as of yet) NEW!!!
SBR-GT30R = (No info as of yet) NEW!!!
SBR-G50 = 48lb/min (50 trim, T04E) NEW!!!
SBR-G57 = 55lb/min (56 trim, T04E) NEW!!!
SBR-60-1 = 60lb/min (60-1 trim, T04E) NEW!!!

Frankenstein Turbos:
Frank 1 = 46 trim, 20*clipped TD05H turbine, TD05H 7cm2 housing
Frank 2 = 46 trim, unclipped TD06 turbine, TD05H 7cm2 housing
Frank 50 = 50 trim, unclipped TD06 turbine, TD05H 7cm2 housing
Frank 3 = 54 trim, unclipped TD06 turbine, TD05H 7cm2 housing
Frank 57 = 57 trim, unclipped TD06 turbine, TD05H 7cm2 housing
Frank 4 = 60 trim, 10*clipped TD06 turbine, TD05H 7cm2 housing
Frank 5 = 60 trim, unclipped TD06H turbine, TD05H 7cm2 housing
Frank 6 = 60 trim, unclipped TD06H turbine, TD05H 8cm2 housing
Frank 7 = 60 trim, 10*clipped TD06H turbine, TD05H 8cm2 housing

GT30 (ball bearing) turbos:
48 trim = 44lbs/min
52 trim = 50lbs/min
56 trim = 55lbs/min
60 trim = 60lbs/min
gt35 trim = 65lbs/min

Garrett:
T-28 = 34lb/min (350BHP)
50 trim = 47lb/min
57 trim = 49lb/min
60-1 = 65lb/min

The following is from Turbonetics Catalog:
On TO4E Compressor housings:
50-trim = 47lbs/min
54-trim = 45lbs/min
57-trim = 49lbs/min
60-trim = 50lbs/min
T-100 = 180lbs/min

TO4B compressor housing:
60-1 = 65lbs/min
62-1 = 70lbs/min

[Entaran]

Can someone identify the car that 49178-04510 is off please? Is it a twin scroll of a later evo? It's listed as a TD05H on that portugese site that lists all MHI turbos.

[to4garret]

TD05H 16G6-7
49178-01300

off a Hyper RVR

teh largest single single entry stock 16G of them all 8)

[jett]

Anyone know what this turbo is 49178-01730 (its a TD05 something)

A quick google search brought up a number of different answers - but mainly from a 2.6L starion...

A guy on PF is selling the comp housing - i just thought it might be worth a hybrid upgrade.

EDIT - a continued google search confirms a TD05-12a-8 from a 1990 2.6L starion.

sooooo prolly not worth the effort.. Anyone know the flow rate or got a comp map?

[brettu26]

TD05H 16G6-7

49178-01300


off a Hyper RVR


teh largest single single entry stock 16G of them all 8)

I have one of these and tried to fit it to my vr4 - but the compressor cover fouls on the front engine mount oops!

what 16G front cover do I need, or would I be best getting? Kando sell the stock one and also 18 & 20g ones

is this TD05H 16G6-7 bigger again than a Big 16G or what? I am going to measure the inducer/exducer wheels tonight.

even if the stock 16G cover fits, is there any advantage to getting a 18 or 20G cover? more flow?

Hope someone can assist a bit
cheers Brett

[rob323]

I have one of these and tried to fit it to my vr4 - but the compressor cover fouls on the front engine mount oops!

what 16G front cover do I need, or would I be best getting? Kando sell the stock one and also 18 & 20g ones

is this TD05H 16G6-7 bigger again than a Big 16G or what? I am going to measure the inducer/exducer wheels tonight.

even if the stock 16G cover fits, is there any advantage to getting a 18 or 20G cover? more flow?

Hope someone can assist a bit
cheers Brett

Covers must be matched to the compressor wheel. A 20 g cover on a 16G wheel will not work very well.

[brettu26]

ok thanks Rob, so a stock evo 3 cover will be best suited then.