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Hey everyone im having trouble trying to get me gsr to idle. Its had a aftermarket tb put on and the new tps that has come with it is a 3pin were the old one is a 4. I have set it up the way it was directed to but it just wont idle. Any ideas or help would be much appreciated

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Can you retrofit your old tps to the new tb? If the tb was to suit a 93t you would think the old tps would fit it

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I tried but tottaly different. And the manifold is different to, tried to bolt the old tb upto the new manifold but the bolt holes are totaly out of wack

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I think the VR4 tps are different to the evo. maybe that would fit


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It's running a 4g63 out of a vr4, just so difficult to try and get it to idle without changing everything back to oem wich I really dont want to

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That's weird. Maybe you'd have to get an adaptor made to attach the oem tps to? Surely a tps that got a wire less would need an aftermarket ecu to run right?

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That's weird. Maybe you'd have to get an adaptor made to attach the oem tps to? Surely a tps that got a wire less would need an aftermarket ecu to run right?

 

Not really, it came from the factory like that remember.
TPS is just a potentiometer on our cars. At it's most basic level, it requires only +5VDC & GND as inputs and throttle signal (0-5V) output.
Nissans have 3 & 4 wire TPS between the same engine on different models and the fourth wire is a throttle home switch.

I can't recall what the fourth wire is on VR4's though.



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oh, could be easy then :)


Edited by Ian91, 24 October 2014 - 10:47 AM.


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Not really, it came from the factory like that remember.
TPS is just a potentiometer on our cars. At it's most basic level, it requires only +5VDC & GND as inputs and throttle signal (0-5V) output.
Nissans have 3 & 4 wire TPS between the same engine on different models and the fourth wire is a throttle home switch.
I can't recall what the fourth wire is on VR4's though.

mate I dont really understand lol do you have any pics or videos on what to do ? Hopeless with electrical stuff

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The tps wouldnt be off a newer model would it, I know the tps off newer mitsi's the plug configuration is reversed, dunno what it would do to ya idle

have ya got a pic or link of the t/b your using?

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Vr4 had 3 wires and the home switch is on other side where throttle stop is. Later cars had 4 wires and the 4th was the home switch.
You need a home switch for the ecu to know it needs to idle. I think it uses it for fuel cut on decel as well.
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Ill grab some photos now for you, how do I set up the home switch ?

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sell house....move to new house.

 

homes switched.


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Get a wife, she will make you do it.

It only has one wire, so its earthed. The wire in the tps plug that doesnt have a corresponding pin in tps needs to be earthed when you are closed throttle. Or just get a 4 pin tps as it is built in
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What Jack said. With the extra wire, you want it to be earthed on zero throttle. You could rig up a microswitch on your throttle body to do this if you can't retrofit an idle switch from an older setup.



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sell house....move to new house.
 
homes switched.


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Have the 3 wires hooked up but dont know where zero throttle is

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2G 4G63T TPS
1 - Green/Yellow (+5v Sensor Power)
2 - Brown/Red (TPS output voltage)
3 - Yellow/Red (IPS switch)
4 - Black (Ground)

1G 4G63T TPS
1 - Green/Red (+5v Sensor Power)
2 - Green/White (TPS output voltage)
3 - NC
4 - Green/Black (Ground)

So... get a 4 pin tps and the one you havent connected is the idle switch
4g93t jumbuck conversion. PRANGED 18/3/12, CHECK MY MEMBER RIDES Page 11. no serious human injuries.
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Were would I go to get a 4pin that would suit the new tb

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All the newer mitsi have 4 wires. But you say its different. Bit hard to guess what yours is. Whats different and post some pics.
4g93t jumbuck conversion. PRANGED 18/3/12, CHECK MY MEMBER RIDES Page 11. no serious human injuries.
ON THE ENGINE STAND. g4cs 2.4l + Gt35r. PLUS: auto conversion + Awd coming.
thanks for parts and help: BMGTZ, EVOCPE, cwolf, Benozi, Jamo-GSR, 1JUM2NV, RXVII..much appreciated, cheers guys.
Aerodynamics are for people who can't build engines. —Enzo Ferrari
REMEMBER: you cant polish a turd, but you can roll it in glitter.


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